tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post2782698132121214995..comments2024-03-26T23:41:10.319+00:00Comments on Authors Electric: From Screen to Book: What films can tell us about story-tellingKatherine Robertshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17196712319655603442noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-82135433520869462212015-04-06T16:59:28.492+01:002015-04-06T16:59:28.492+01:00Susan (or anyone, of course), how helpful do you a...Susan (or anyone, of course), how helpful do you actually find the Booker tome to be? I've been thinking of reading it but have been put off by 1) its length; 2) its ostensibly prescriptive -- some say dismissive -- and exclusively Jungian approach; and 3) the way Booker essentially ignores at least half a century of other work in narratology. Perhaps I'm just put off by the idea of a single Grand Theory of Story.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13770069472552779217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-32235592194205671782015-04-06T14:01:10.177+01:002015-04-06T14:01:10.177+01:00Good point Lydia Bennet!
Haven't read Robert...Good point Lydia Bennet! <br />Haven't read Robert McKee's book Catherine, but he had a formidable reputation! <br />Kathleen Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07645566938871914385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-12300192633226953432015-04-06T10:16:42.162+01:002015-04-06T10:16:42.162+01:00Top post! great break-down. I've often thought...Top post! great break-down. I've often thought, and said on here I think, that publishers too could learn a lot from films - although films are usually trailed as 'romcom' or 'action thriller' or 'art house' they do in fact often cross or mix genres, in a way trad publishers so often say the reader can't deal with - they deal with it every day on TV and in movies. Lydia Bennethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328239009863878547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-79081244911432217302015-04-05T22:49:27.965+01:002015-04-05T22:49:27.965+01:00And then there's Robert McKee's 'Story...And then there's Robert McKee's 'Story' which for many years was the screen writer's bible. Published in 1999 - a doorstop of a book, but very useful for dipping into.I never got the length of doing one of his expensive and challenging courses, but people who did told me that they got a lot out of them. And Aristotle who kind of did it first!Catherine Czerkawskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554969254207924049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-66606382171312553612015-04-05T21:40:35.128+01:002015-04-05T21:40:35.128+01:00Thanks for your comments everyone - just come back...Thanks for your comments everyone - just come back from a lovely day out on a lake in Italy - strong wind, temp about 8 degrees, but the wine was good and there was snow on the mountains! <br />Lee, I didn't know about John Yorke's book, but will look it up now.<br />Susan, yes, I've found the Seven Basic Plots quite interesting - particularly the section on the psychology of story-telling. <br />Reb - your new book sounds really interesting.<br />Mari - I'm not going to use this plot, though it is copyright to me, but I use it a lot in workshops - it's amazing how many different stories you can get from one scenario!<br />JO - you are so right about films - they've taught me a lot, particularly for short stories.<br />Now I'm off to bed, with a full moon rising behind the hills and the promise of a fine day tomorrow in the clear sky. Still perishing cold though! <br />Kathleen Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07645566938871914385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-30166308666923394952015-04-05T19:12:37.337+01:002015-04-05T19:12:37.337+01:00I'll see you Into The Woods, and raise you Sev...I'll see you Into The Woods, and raise you Seven Basic Plots, Booker.Susan Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738737493756183909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-51565498669672486372015-04-05T18:45:02.198+01:002015-04-05T18:45:02.198+01:00John Yorke's Into the WoodsJohn Yorke's <i>Into the Woods</i>Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13770069472552779217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-31208754202422586712015-04-05T15:36:26.920+01:002015-04-05T15:36:26.920+01:00Beautifully done. 'Who knows what and who does...Beautifully done. 'Who knows what and who doesn't' has become a key point I'm exploring in my new book. That and 'Who doesn't know something they should know--and why?' glitter noirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11728649916344336118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-13725813391617386942015-04-05T13:39:08.782+01:002015-04-05T13:39:08.782+01:00Great post, Kathleen. Your plot built on jeopardy ...Great post, Kathleen. Your plot built on jeopardy sounds like it has real promise!Mari Biellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221256993468150226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-79692310826119455752015-04-05T11:37:45.801+01:002015-04-05T11:37:45.801+01:00Terrific post, Kathleen. That 'story-spine'...Terrific post, Kathleen. That 'story-spine' is similar to what I teach in school workshops - except I break it down even further. I can vouch for the fact that it works!Susan Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738737493756183909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2429560125838989988.post-26494172730707817082015-04-05T09:58:25.240+01:002015-04-05T09:58:25.240+01:00We can learn so much about storytelling from film ...We can learn so much about storytelling from film - I often think through a film in the say way I reflect on a novel - looking at POV, pace, beginnings and endings, the use of setting etc. JOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03127111575563904349noreply@blogger.com